as 1975 approached, we began to hear the preliminary murmurs of denial from the society rather than any honest admissions or apologies for their dreadful mistake.
finally, i remember sitting at the watchtower study one sunday listening to the brothers and sisters parroting the information from the study article and innocently taking all of the blame for misinterpreting what the society had said about 1975. it was the first of several occasions when i longed to jump up from my seat, run to the podium, and argue for the apparently forgotten truth.
instead, i sat there and thought how much the society was like the scribes and pharisees in jesus dayburdening the people with heavy loads that they were not willing to budge with their finger (matthew 23:4).
"And even though I knew they were not being totally honest about their involvement in promoting 1975 and then blaming the rank and file for reading too much into what was said in talks and print, I still didnt wake up until 1993. . . ." -- smiddy
You're welcome, smiddy, and thanks to you, stuckinarut2, and Bungi Bill for your replies.
Yes, we lived through it, but has our history been rewritten, too?!?!?!?!?
as 1975 approached, we began to hear the preliminary murmurs of denial from the society rather than any honest admissions or apologies for their dreadful mistake.
finally, i remember sitting at the watchtower study one sunday listening to the brothers and sisters parroting the information from the study article and innocently taking all of the blame for misinterpreting what the society had said about 1975. it was the first of several occasions when i longed to jump up from my seat, run to the podium, and argue for the apparently forgotten truth.
instead, i sat there and thought how much the society was like the scribes and pharisees in jesus dayburdening the people with heavy loads that they were not willing to budge with their finger (matthew 23:4).
Thought you'd find this timely . . .
every time i've asked this in an existing thread, i've never gotten an answer, so forgive me for starting a new thread in order to ask again.
i simply cannot figure out how to quote someone with the standard yellow box.
i can copy/paste the quote, sure, but nothing i do makes it appear in a yellow box like everyone else.
Well, this is how I show the quotations of other posters since, I, too, can't do even the simplest procedure:
"Every time I've asked this in an existing thread, I've never gotten an answer, so forgive me for starting a new thread in order to ask again. I simply cannot figure out how to quote someone with the standard yellow box." -- Nevuela
"You have got me I dont know how to do it either ,It took me donkeys ages to do what I did here ?LOL" -- smiddy
The info cited below is helpful if you are writing a paper and need to quote outside sources; this is above and beyond what we need here when making a casual reference to what a fellow poster has written:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=go3arnnsfkk&feature=youtu.be.
no mention whatsoever that it was watchtower themselves that strongly hinted towards this date.
instead they blame those who "put their trust in a date, not jehovah".. let's recap... .
House, M.D., Season 7, Episode 18: "The Dig"
House picks up "Thirteen" -- Dr. Remy Hadley -- upon her release from prison. She asks him to take her to a certain location in order to take care of a personal matter. They pull up to a house in a nice neighborhood, "Thirteen" gets out of the car, walks to the front door, and knocks. A man answers, whom she subsequently knees in the groin. He collapses to the floor; she departs nonchalantly, reenters the car.
"I didn't know you were a Jehovah's Witness," remarks House.
"Yeah, the weak lost faith when Christ didn't return in '75, but I still believe."
House wants to pursue this line of inquiry further, but "Thirteen," like many a good JW, cuts in and says she's starving, and can we get going.
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/4659761393958912/house-m-d-jehovahs-witnesses-75
as jws , we all remember the thought of dragging oneself out of bed on a nice sunny sunday meeting or getting home tired after a hard day at work contemplating another boring , pointless , repetitive weekday evening meeting.. as the only legitimate reason for missing a meeting is illness , the only way for anyone to avoid a meeting that they really couldn't be bothered to go to ( ie most of them ) is to "pretend" to be ill. so given an average meeting attendance of 60% or so , invariably many people would be missing , presumed dead ( or "ill".
we used to have a congregation game of football ( soccer ) on a sunday afternoon and it always amused me how many jws who were "too ill" to attend the meeting on the morning would suddenly recover , lazarus style , to play without exhibiting any signs of the apparently near fatal acute health condition of that morning.
one of the more officious elders tried to introduce a rule that the only ones who could play would have to have been at the meeting that morning , but in practice it was very difficult to police and the better players tended to be the ones who missed most meetings.. one of the problems was the risk that some well meaning and / or nosey jw would phone up ( or even turn up , unannounced ) at the house to see "how you were" and clearly it didn't go down too well if they found you in rude health chasing the dog or kids around the garden..
So glad you, Sylvia -- all of us -- are doing better now!
as jws , we all remember the thought of dragging oneself out of bed on a nice sunny sunday meeting or getting home tired after a hard day at work contemplating another boring , pointless , repetitive weekday evening meeting.. as the only legitimate reason for missing a meeting is illness , the only way for anyone to avoid a meeting that they really couldn't be bothered to go to ( ie most of them ) is to "pretend" to be ill. so given an average meeting attendance of 60% or so , invariably many people would be missing , presumed dead ( or "ill".
we used to have a congregation game of football ( soccer ) on a sunday afternoon and it always amused me how many jws who were "too ill" to attend the meeting on the morning would suddenly recover , lazarus style , to play without exhibiting any signs of the apparently near fatal acute health condition of that morning.
one of the more officious elders tried to introduce a rule that the only ones who could play would have to have been at the meeting that morning , but in practice it was very difficult to police and the better players tended to be the ones who missed most meetings.. one of the problems was the risk that some well meaning and / or nosey jw would phone up ( or even turn up , unannounced ) at the house to see "how you were" and clearly it didn't go down too well if they found you in rude health chasing the dog or kids around the garden..
A lot, I believe, has to do with one's upbringing.
There was illness in my own family and consideration and thoughtfulness towards the patient. In some families, however, there is neither tolerance nor patience when a family member is sick, or has a condition.
Later on in life, I was continuously aggrieved when psychologically beat down during times of actual illness.
as jws , we all remember the thought of dragging oneself out of bed on a nice sunny sunday meeting or getting home tired after a hard day at work contemplating another boring , pointless , repetitive weekday evening meeting.. as the only legitimate reason for missing a meeting is illness , the only way for anyone to avoid a meeting that they really couldn't be bothered to go to ( ie most of them ) is to "pretend" to be ill. so given an average meeting attendance of 60% or so , invariably many people would be missing , presumed dead ( or "ill".
we used to have a congregation game of football ( soccer ) on a sunday afternoon and it always amused me how many jws who were "too ill" to attend the meeting on the morning would suddenly recover , lazarus style , to play without exhibiting any signs of the apparently near fatal acute health condition of that morning.
one of the more officious elders tried to introduce a rule that the only ones who could play would have to have been at the meeting that morning , but in practice it was very difficult to police and the better players tended to be the ones who missed most meetings.. one of the problems was the risk that some well meaning and / or nosey jw would phone up ( or even turn up , unannounced ) at the house to see "how you were" and clearly it didn't go down too well if they found you in rude health chasing the dog or kids around the garden..
Yes, Sylvia:
Due to very long hours working two jobs and caring for our home and property, I, on occasion, "tried" to rest up of a Sunday and go nowhere -- NOWHERE!
When I attempted such a move ("non-move," actually), it created such a ruckus with my ne'er-say-die mate that I often wondered if it was worth it, i.e., getting the business for my lack of spirituality, and so forth.
Enjoying our freedom now!
pork chops, grits-broccoli-cheese casserole, celery & green onions smothered in turkey broth.. oh, frabjous day, calloo callay!.
or, something like that.. tee hee hee..
He doesn't want anyone near him when he's cooking. When he finished, he left the kitchen spotless. Everything in its place.
OCD runs in the family. -- Sylvia
Oh, my! How well I relate!
pork chops, grits-broccoli-cheese casserole, celery & green onions smothered in turkey broth.. oh, frabjous day, calloo callay!.
or, something like that.. tee hee hee..
greetings, word lovers:.
in my job, i work with words and wrangle them into shape, well, in a manner of speaking.
one word might be mistaken for another, a word with either a similar or identical sound.
When a thoughtless and callow youth, I did things that now make me weep with shame.
definition: juvenile, naive, immature
new word: picaresque
